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-- scare people, but what you should do in this environment is don't get distracted from there, don't go for fear. >> ross, if what you're saying suggests, perhaps, gold still is a safe haven, why do you think so? >> let me qualify that. it's an imperfect safe haven. it's an imperfect safe haven, particularly in the short run. >> against what? >> against financial meltdown or inflation or politicians not doing what they should do, in that case. so it's an insurance plan, if you like. >> is the reason we have this down move is because people are now -- is the gold pricing in the fact we're not going to get more qe out of -- >> it may be. and it's part of the story dwr the shorts have hit gold is not because of what has happened, but because of what hasn't happened. we haven't had hyper inflation. we didn't have the euro collapse. certain things didn't happen. i think that would have aggravated the gold market. fundamentally, it still remains in the short-term a long haven and imperfect. >> if nvs the kind of move, you know, that indicated that if gold were going to respond to more quantit
the internet, either at home or at the office or in the retail environment. so we're orienting everything we're doing at ebay, ebay, inc., to help consumers have a seamless shopping experience. >> john, last question i have, if there's one danger that i see particularly for paypal, it is scrappy competitors coming up, what you talked about last time you and i talked, braintree, et cetera, that have gotten some of the hot mobile retail start-ups under their wing. what's the major ting that ebay has to do to get the next fab, the next uber, for instance, under the paypal wing? >> well, there's going to be a lot of innovation in mobile payments and in this whole space because there's so much change. weened that. we actually respect and like that. we made several acquisitions. but we're innovating aggressively as well. we just launched our new mobile software library at south by southwest and actually companies like uber, companies like fab are using paypal and integrating paypal because paypal brings 120 million active consumers. paypal brings a network of capability that is strong. and so ther
and the reason is because the environment had so radically changed in a very short period of time. that's one of the things i detail. >> when we look at hawaii now we don't see that. we see the plantations and that sort of thing. so, t.d.? >> what i found out when i was researching this book is the paradise like other things is an intellectual and social construct and just as there is a paper trail in the spanish illusion that gold was to be found in florida, by the way i just want to clarify one thing it begins with the first massacre of white men in the western hemisphere certainly and north america and this is how our history began with a spanish learned there was nothing to be found. it was only tradition in florida, that was before they found out that they had established a settlement in jacksonville so they tore across the atlantic and massacred several hundred frenchmen and that is the beginning of the history. as i say in the beginning if we look at -- for this old guy looking for viagra and largely america thinks here comes a hurricane this is no understanding, but if you look at the
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